tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30130444.post9210771257075691640..comments2024-02-16T09:00:32.845-06:00Comments on FromDC2Iowa: UI Has a Drinking ProblemUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30130444.post-5520777636730567432009-12-02T21:09:45.191-06:002009-12-02T21:09:45.191-06:00The State of Iowa is a problem you need to conside...The State of Iowa is a problem you need to consider in this situation. Often times, cities make attempts to deny permits to establishments because of fights, etc. only to have it overturned at the state level. In fact, cities are now lobbying the legislature in an attempt to make bar owners more responsible by problems stemming from drinkers. Guess what? It will go NOWHERE in the legislature most likely. <br /><br />Not only that, prohibition doesn't work. Iowa City cracked down on keggers and just sent more kids downtown or to small apartment speakeasy partying. Is a 19 year old today a lot different than a 19 year old in the 1920's in this regard?John Barleykornnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30130444.post-46631227807949862902009-11-20T18:29:26.746-06:002009-11-20T18:29:26.746-06:00Nick
Suppose there was a maximum legal age to dri...Nick<br /><br />Suppose there was a maximum legal age to drink and people older than the maximum could be cited and fined for possession of alcohol while over the legal age. How many of the old folk do you think would obey such a law?John Neffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30130444.post-64659457515905320362009-11-18T10:54:41.871-06:002009-11-18T10:54:41.871-06:00There's two different problems here: alcohol a...There's two different problems here: alcohol abuse and the drinking age. We have no credibility dealing with the abuse until we acknowledge that the 21 year age is a failure.<br /><br />Once we acknowledge that an 18 year old is an adult with the right to have *A* drink, we can more effectively teach people how not to have *too much* to drink.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09749260349116845928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30130444.post-44937732041046792632009-11-18T10:28:23.422-06:002009-11-18T10:28:23.422-06:00I am not aware of any historical evidence that it ...I am not aware of any historical evidence that it is possible to limit access to alcohol. The prisons have the most controlled environment in this country and they are not able to keep alcohol from prisoners. <br /><br />I don't know if you are interested but there are step-by-step instructions on how to make prison hooch in your toilet. Serving that stuff might be a good way to get rid of unwelcome guests.<br /><br />The whole point of making bars 21 only is to move the problems out of the downtown zone. If you move the drinking to the campus that would be better than having them drive someplace else to drink and then drive back drunk. <br /><br />When I moved here in 1964 the under 21 crowd would have parties at the reservoir and then drive back drunk to Iowa City. The police hated that and I do not want to see a return to that behavior either.<br /><br />The high risk age range for alcohol abuse is 18 to 29 and the lowest risk age group is 65 and older. If you use 1/50 to estimate the number of Johnson County residents that have an alcohol dependence there are about 2,600 and at least 600 of them are UI students. <br /><br />A private university can screen prospective students for potential alcohol abuse problems and refuse to admit them but the UI and KCC are state schools and they are not allowed to exclude students on the basis of risk. They can expel them if they violate conduct rules or fail to make progress towards achieving a degree.John Neffnoreply@blogger.com