tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30130444.post7245169536331520989..comments2024-02-16T09:00:32.845-06:00Comments on FromDC2Iowa: Why "21-Only" Isn'tUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30130444.post-5224095337821595592007-10-27T11:28:00.000-05:002007-10-27T11:28:00.000-05:00My wife and I were students during the late 50's a...My wife and I were students during the late 50's and early 60's. That's when and where we learned to drink. Very, very few problems. Drinking age was 21 then as well. Rarely, police would walk through bars and observe behavior..no problems if there were no problems! 'Twas a lot of fun with fond memories. Leave the kids alone. If they mess up that's another story. Part of life's experience and growing up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30130444.post-5105816705373920912007-10-26T11:03:00.000-05:002007-10-26T11:03:00.000-05:00"A true "21-only" would produce a significant redu..."A true "21-only" would produce a significant reduction in binge drinking, notwithstanding opponents' canard about it "just going elsewhere" (something that is going on now anyway)."<BR/><BR/>Maybe you have more than anecdotal evidence to support you proposition here, but my anecdotal evidence (undergrad in Ames, grad student in Iowa City) is that "going elsewhere" is a legitimate concern. If you think it's bad having tailgaters in your backyard 4 or 5 days a year, imagine every rented home in your neighborhood (a lot of them, if I'm not mistaken) taking turns hosting keg parties. This is Tursday, Friday, and Saturday night in Ames.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30130444.post-51649615313602859962007-10-19T23:58:00.000-05:002007-10-19T23:58:00.000-05:00Read the law Nick. It is legal for a person under ...Read the law Nick. It is legal for a person under the age of 21 to be in a bar unless the bar owner restricts entry to those 21 and older or there is a city ordinance that sets restrictions on the age or times when they can be present.<BR/><BR/>It is not legal for a person under the legal age to drink to consume alcohol in a public place however it is legal for them to consume alcohol in private place under certain restrictions (which as a practical matter are not enforceable). <BR/><BR/>Private parties where alcohol is served can be attended by underage persons without problems unless someone complains and the police come to investigate the problem. Only a subset of parties result in complaints and the police may not come very quickly if they are busy so we have no idea how many parties there are now.<BR/><BR/>Surveys indicate that 22% to 30% of 10th to 12th grade students occasionally over-consume alcohol and they are not doing that in bars. They drink at parties or in cars. So some of our young people are just continuing the behavior they started in high school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30130444.post-7783729540026599112007-10-19T23:25:00.000-05:002007-10-19T23:25:00.000-05:00I don't understand all this hand wringing now abou...I don't understand all this hand wringing now about drinking...It was bad back in the 80's when I was there. From what my parents told me there was a lot going on in the 60's and even my grandma told me stories of it in the late 30's. <BR/><BR/>7 to 51 bars? Where did that number come from? There is not a lot of difference in bars now than the late 80's. A few more maybe, but some are also gone like Gabes and Tycoon IC.<BR/><BR/>It will go elsewhere if it went to a true 21 only. That being said, it is probably the best solution for the bars. You would get a lot more small group drinking in apartments off campus, but it would solve the downtown problem somewhat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com